Archive for April 2009
Corwin Brown
http://www.detroitlions.com/document_display.cfm?cont_id=43704
http://www.detroitlions.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=3565#
http://www.sptimes.com/News/102000/Sports/Knocked_silly.shtml
Detroit Lions, NFL Draft picks (update)
I have included the picks the Lions traded away in order to evaluate the trades at a later date. Interestingly, only 2 picks were taken at the original slots, the Lions were active in trading down for more players.
The Lions also acquired Denver’s 5th round pick in 2010.
The general strategy the Lions followed was to take the BPA (best player available) or trade down if no BPA filled a need. This resulted in the Lions acquiring 2 immediate starters (TE Pettigrew & S Delmas), a “QB of the future” in Stafford, starting KR (and 3rd down back Brown) & PR (and slot receiver Williams), 2 LBs (Levy & Follett) to compete for MLB/special teams, a DT project (the raw but althletically talented Hill), an OL project (Murtha), & TE project (Gronkowski). They chose talent over polish with the idea that they can “coach up” & develop talent into a better player in the long run.
Draft picks
- R1#01(001) Matt Stafford QB, Georgia
- R1#20(020) Brandon Pettigrew TE, Oklahoma State, from Dallas via Trade #1
- R2#01(033) Louis Delmas S, Western Michigan
- R3#01(065) Shonn Greene RB, Iowa, to New York Jets via Trade #3
- R3#18(076) DeAndre Levy LB, Wisconsin, from New York Jets via Trade #3
- R3#18(082) Derrick Williams RS/WR, Penn State, from Dallas via Trade #1
- R4#01(101) Stephen McGee QB, Texas A&M, to Dallas via Trade #1
- R4#15(115) Sammie Lee Hill DT, Stillman, from New York Jets via Trade #3
- R5#01(137) Jason Phillips ILB, TCU, to Baltimore (thru Seattle) via Trade #2
- R6#01(174) Tom Brandstater QB, Fresno State, to Denver via Trade #4
- R6#19(192) Aaron Brown RS/RB, TCU, from Dallas via Trade #1
- R7#01(210) Vance Walker DT, Georgia Tech, to Atlanta (thru Dallas) via Trade #1
- R7#19(228) Lydon Murtha OT, Nebraska, from New York Jets via Trade #3
- R7#26(235) Zack Follett LB, Cal, from Denver via Trade #4
- R7#46(255) Dan Gronkowski TE, Maryland, NFL compensatory pick
Trades
- Detroit Lions get: R1#20(020) Brandon Pettigrew TE, R3#18(082) Derrick Williams RS/WR, R6#19(192) Aaron Brown RS/RB – Dallas Cowboys get: Roy Williams WR, R4#01(101) Stephen McGee QB, & R7#01(210) traded to Atlanta Falcons (Vance Walker DT)
- Detroit Lions get: Julian Peterson OLB – Seattle Seahawks get: R5#1(137) traded to Baltimore Ravens (Jason Phillips ILB), Cory Redding DE/DT
- Detroit Lions get: R3#12(076) DeAndre Levy LB, R4#15(155) Sammie Lee Hill DT, R7#19(228) Lydon Murtha OT – New York Jets get: R3#1(065) Shonn Greene RB
- Detroit Lions get: R7#26(235) Zack Follett LB, Denver’s R5 in 2010 - Denver Broncos get: R6#1(174) Tom Brandstater QB
Links
1st pick Bobby Layne, 2nd pick Charlie Sanders…
it proves Schwartz cares about 3rd down and red zone… shows he knows the Lions haven’t had a legit TE since Charlie Sanders…
- first pick Bobby Layne (Georgia QB Matt Stafford graduated Bobby Layne High School)
- second pick Charlie Sanders (consensus top TE in draft Brandon Pettigrew)
- third pick Bennie Blades (SS Louis Delmas)
- fourth Chris Spielman?
LionHawkeye’s Detroit Lions Draft Board cheat list
link to original list
Q: how was this list made?
theNetRat: “He (LionHawkeye) read hundreds of local papers, blew up pics of pro-days and then cross-referenced everything to verify it was true. An excellent list and 10 for 11 counting last year and this.”
LionHawkeye: “Sometimes I dont think (people) understand the scouting process. 300-350 players are scouted, tape viewed, ranked, evaluations written. After that Campus visits at end of season leading to bowl games, and senior bowls. Then the Combine. The players are all re-ranked, and the coaches go see, watch tape, interview, players, and do (individual) workouts. Then some picks are brought in to Allen Park. They then spend a week ranking position needs (often called Horizontal) and player rankings (often called Vertical). They then make up a master board in order of all players. They spend a week arguing about who is better. Now a horizontal ranking may bump a player different amounts based on team philosophy. But unless the team is run by a egomaniac with an inferiority complex (Millen), they stick to the board. This is how the best teams draft. They even value trades and picks and not necessarily by the old trade chart. They spend Millions (on) this function. They dont just say ‘I need a MLB’ and pick one.”
The number to right is number of verified contacts.
Round 1
- DETROIT LIONS – Matt Stafford QB Georgia, 4 visits (Grade: 96, overall: 7, pos: 1) Stafford has very good upside. He has a very strong arm, good size and adequate height. In other words, the sky’s the limit for Stafford. Our concern is that he lacks elite intangibles. This is problematic when you look at the situation in Detroit. The best-case scenario is Stafford winds up as the Lions’ franchise quarterback for years to come. In order for that to happen, however, the Lions need to bring him along slowly and that’s going to prove difficult. If they rush him, the Lions risk losing out on their investment.
- St. Louis – Jason Smith OT Baylor, 4 visits (Grade: 97, overall: 2, pos: 1)
- KC – Tyson Jackson DE LSU, 0 visits (Grade: 94, overall: 14, pos: 3) REACH!
- Seattle – Aaron Curry LB Wake forest, 4 visits (Grade: 97, overall: 1, pos: 1)
- NYJ – Mark Sanchez QB USC, 4 visits (Grade: 95, overall: 8, pos: 2) trade! (from Cleveland)
- Cinci – Andre Smith LT Alabama, 3 visits (Grade: 95, overall: 10, pos: 3)
- Oakland – Darrius Hayward-Bey WR Maryland, 0 visits (Grade: 90, overall: 25, pos: 4) REACH!
- Jax – Eugene Monroe OT Virginia, 4 visits (Grade: 96, overall: 5, pos: 2)
- GB – BJ Raji DT Boston College, 4 visits (Grade: 96, overall: 4, pos: 1)
- SF – Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech, 1 visits (Grade: 96, overall: 3, pos: 1)
- Buffalo – Aaron Maybin DE PSU, 2 visits (Grade: 96, overall: 6, pos: 1)
- Denver – Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia, 0 visits (Grade: 94, overall: 12, pos: 1)
- Washington – Brian Orakpo DE Texas, 1 visits (Grade: 95, overall: 9, pos: 2)
- N’orleans – Malcolm Jenkins CB OSU, 2 visits (Grade: 94, overall: 13, pos: 1)
- Houston – Brian Cushing OLB USC, 2 visits (Grade: 92, overall: 19, pos: 2)
- SD – Larry English DE N.Illinois, 0 visits (Grade: 89, overall: 28, pos: 6) REACH!
- Tampa – Josh Freeman QB Kan.St, 3 visits (Grade: 85, overall: 46, pos: 2) trade! (from NYJ thru Cleve) REACH!
- Denver – Robert Ayers DE Tenn, 0 visits (Grade: 93, overall: 15, pos: 4) trade! (from Chicago)
- Philly – Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri, 3 visits (Grade: 95, overall: 11, pos: 2) trade! (from Tampa thru Cleve)
- DETROIT LIONS – Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St., 3 visits (Grade: 93, overall: 17, pos: 1) trade! (from Dallas) Pettigrew is the most complete tight end prospect in this class. At 263 pounds he’s an effective drive-blocker who can hold his own working against NFL defensive ends. Although he lacks elite speed and isn’t going to stretch the field as much as some other prospects in this class, Pettigrew is a reliable possession receiver who does an excellent job throwing his weight around and using his frame to shield defenders from the ball.
- Cleveland – Alex Mack C Cal, 3 visits (Grade: 87, overall: 39, pos: 1) trade! (from Philly)
- Minnesota – Percy Harvin WR Florida, 0 visits (Grade: 89, overall: 27, pos: 5)
- Baltimore – Michael Oher LT Miss, 2 visits (Grade: 92, overall: 20, pos: 4) trade! (from NE)
- Atlanta – Peria Jerry DT Miss, 2 visits (Grade: 91, overall: 23, pos: 2)
- Miami – Vontae Davis CB Illinois, 0 visits (Grade: 90, overall: 26, pos: 2)
- GB – Clay Matthews OLB USC, 2 visits (Grade: 91, overall: 21, pos: 3) trade! (from Baltimore thru NE)
- Indy – Donald Brown RB Utah, 0 visits (Grade: 89, overall: 30, pos: 3)
- Buffalo – Eric Wood OC Louisville, 3 visits (Grade: 86, overall: 41, pos: 2) trade! (from Carolina thru Philly)
- NYG – Hakeem Nicks WR UNC, 0 visits (Grade: 91, overall: 22, pos: 3)
- Tennessee – Kenny Britt WR Rutgers, 0 visits (Grade: 88, overall: 34, pos: 6)
- Arizona – Chris Wells RB OSU, 0 visits (Grade: 93, overall: 16, pos: 2)
- Pittsburgh – Evander Hood DT Missouri, 3 visits (Grade: 86, overall: 42, pos: 3)
Round 2
- DETROIT LIONS – Louis Delmas SS W.Michigan, 3 visits (Grade: 89, overall: 29, pos: 1) There aren’t many things Delmas can’t do. His greatest strength is his instincts. He reads keys, locates the ball quickly and gets to it quickly. He’s capable of delivering a big hit or playing the ball over the middle. The one concern with him is that he played at a relatively small school, but he showed at the Senior Bowl that he can compete with the big boys.
- NE – Patrick Chung S Oregon, 0 visits (Grade: 79, overall: 62, pos: 4) trade! (from KC) REACH!
- St.Louis – James Laurenitus LB OSU, 3 visits (Grade: 89, overall: 32, pos: 2)
- Cleveland – Brian Robiskie WR OSU, 0 visits (Grade: 77, overall: 72, pos: 10) REACH!
- Denver – Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest, 2 visits (Grade: 89, overall: 33, pos: 3) trade! (from Seattle)
- Cincy – Rey Maualuga ILB USC, 3 visits (Grade: 91, overall: 24, pos: 1) VALUE!
- Jax – Eben Britton OT Arizona, 2 visits (Grade: 89, overall: 31, pos: 5)
- NE – Ron Brace DT Boston College, 2 visits (Grade: 81, overall: 56, pos: 4) trade! (from Oakland) REACH!
- NE – Darius Butler CB UConn, 0 visits (Grade: 88, overall: 35, pos: 4) trade! (from GB)
- Buffalo – Jairus Byrd CB Oregon, 0 visits (Grade: 81, overall: 58, pos: 7) REACH!
- Carolina – Everette Brown DE Florida St., 2 visits (Grade: 92, overall: 18, pos: 5) trade! (from SF) VALUE!
- Miami – Pat White WR W.Virginia, 0 visits (Grade: 79, overall: 67, pos: 8 ) trade! (from Washington) REACH!
- NYG – Clint Sintim OLB Virginia, 0 visits (Grade: 87, overall: 40, pos: 5) trade! (from N’orleans)
- Houston – Connor Barwin DE Cincy, 3 visits (Grade: 85, overall: 47, pos: 7)
- Oakland – Michael Mitchell CB Ohio, 0 visits (Grade: 0, overall: 0, pos: 0) trade! (from SD thru NE) REACH!
- Denver – Darcel McBath S Texas Tech, 0 visits (Grade: 69, overall: 101, pos: 6) REACH!
- Chicago – Max Unger C Oregon, 3 visits (Grade: 85, overall: 45, pos: 3)
- Cleveland – Mohammed Massaquoi WR Georgia, 3 visits (Grade: 83, overall: 53, pos: 7) trade! (from Tampa)
- Buffalo – Andrew Levitre OG Oregon St., 0 visits (Grade: 82, overall: 55, pos: 1) trade! (from Dallas)
- Cleveland – David Veikune DE Hawaii, 0 visits (Grade: 78, overall: 69, pos: 10) trade! (from NYJ)
- Philly – LeSean McCoy RB Pittsburgh, 0 visits (Grade: 88, overall: 37, pos: 4) VALUE!
- Minny – Phil Loadholt OT Oklahoma, 2 visits (Grade: 80, overall: 59, pos: 7)
- Atlanta – William Moore S Missouri, o visits (Grade: 81, overall: 57, pos: 3)
- Indy – Fili Moala DT USC, 2 visits (Grade: 79, overall: 63, pos: 6) trade! (from Miami)
- Baltimore – Paul Kruger OLB Utah, 0 visits (Grade: 88, overall: 36, pos: 4) VALUE!
- NE – Sebastian Vollmer OT Houston, 0 visits (Grade: 74, overall: 80, pos: 9) REACH!
- Carolina – Sherrod Martin CB Troy St., 0 visits (Grade: 79, overall: 61, pos: 8 )
- NYG – William Beatty OT UConn, 0 visits (Grade: 85, overall: 48, pos: 6)
- Miami – Sean Smith CB Utah, 2 visits (Grade: 82, overall: 54, pos: 6) trade! (from Indy)
- Tennessee – Sen’Derrick Marks DT Auburn, 2 visits (Grade: 76, overall: 75, pos: 7)
- Arizona – Cody Brown OLB UConn, 0 visits (Grade: 79, overall: 64, pos: 6)
- Denver – Richard Quinn TE UNC, o visits (Grade: 67, overall: 108, pos: 9) trade! (from Pittsburgh) REACH!
Round 3
- NYJ – Shonn Greene RB Iowa (Grade: , overall: , pos: ) trade! (from Detroit)
- St. Louis – Bradley Fletcher CB Iowa (Grade: , overall: , pos: )
- KC – Alex Magee DT Perdue (Grade: , overall: , pos: )
- Chicago – Jarron Gilbert DT San Jose St., 3 visits (Grade: , overall: , pos: ) trade! (from Seattle)
- Dallas – Jason Williams OLB W.Illinois (Grade: , overall: , pos: ) trade! (from Cleve)
- Cincy – Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech, 2 visits (Grade: , overall: , pos: )
- Oakland – Matt Shaughnessy DE Wisconsin (Grade: , overall: , pos: )
- Jax – Terrence Knighton DT Temple (Grade: , overall: , pos: )
- Jax – Derek Cox CB William & Mary (Grade: , overall: , pos: ) trade! (from GB thru NE)
- SF – Glen Coffee RB Alabama (Grade: , overall: , pos: )
- Dallas – Robert Brewster DT Ball St (Grade: , overall: , pos: ) trade! (from Buffalo)
- DETROIT LIONS – DeAndre Levy OLB Wisconsin, 1 visit (Grade: 76 , overall: 170, pos: 15) trade! (from N’orleans thru NYJ) Levy has excellent instincts and good range and gets to the ball quickly. Although he doesn’t have great bulk at 236 pounds Levy uses his hands very well and is a much better run defender than his measureables would indicate. He does lack elite man-coverage skills, but we like his ball skills and think he can develop into a playmaker.
- Houston
- SD
- Pittsburgh
- Washington
- Tampa
- DETROIT LIONS – Derrick Williams WR/RS PSU, 2 visits (Grade: 78, overall: 71, pos: 9) trade! (from Dallas) Williams doesn’t have outstanding size but he does possess impressive athleticism. He displays a quick burst off the line of scrimmage and reaches top-end speed in an instant. He also brings strong versatility to contribute on special teams as a return man. That said, he’ll need some refining at the top end of his routes; because he shows too much wasted movement getting in and out of his breaks.
Round 4
Marcus Freeman LB OSU, 2 visits
Jared Cook TE S.Carolina, 3 visits
Duke Robinson OG Oklahoma, 2 visits
Chase Coffman TE Missouri, 2 visits
#82
Pat White QB WVU, 2 visits
Travis Beckum TE Wisconsin, 2 visits
Tyronne Mckensie ILB USF, 2 visits
Cory Irvin DT Georgia, 3 visits
Tyronne Greene OG Auburn, 2 visits
TJ Lang OG/OT EMU, 3 visits
Jon Cooper C Oklahoma, 2 visits
#174
Donald Washington CB OSU, 3 visits
Demetrius Byrd WR LSU, 3 visits
Jason Phillips ILB TCU, 2 visits
Daniel Holtzclaw ILB EMU, 2 visits
Seth Olsen OL Iowa, 2 visits
DeAngelo Willingham CB Tennesee, 3 visits
#192
Pannel Egboh DE Stanford, 2 visits
Jerraud Powers CB Auburn, 2 visits
Ellis Lankster CB WVU, 2 visits
DJ Boldin WR Wake Forest, 3 visits
#255
Roy Miller DT Texas, 2 visits
Nick Hennessey OL Colgate, 3 visits
Carson Butler TE Michighan, 2 visits
EJ Bigger CB WMU, 3 visits
Tristan Davis RS Auburn, 2 visits
Bradley Fletcher CB Iowa, 2 visits
Johnny Knox WR Abeline Christian, 3 visits
Jacob Wyatt SS EMU, 2 visits
Brice McCain CB/RS Utah, 3 visits
Alex Fletcher C Stanford, 2 visits
George Foster returns for the 3rd time
file this under: here we go again!
The Detroit Lions … added another former player today when they re-signed tackle George Foster.
The Lions also announced the signing of free agent center Dylan Gandy, a former fourth-round pick by the Colts in 2005. Gandy, who has also spent time with the Broncos and Raiders, did not appear in a game last season. Both Foster and Gandy signed one-year contracts.
source: mlive.com/lions